What happens when love becomes art, and art becomes a test of endurance, identity, and separation? How far can two people go when their relationship is also their medium? In this discussion, Leon, a psychologist and artist, introduces one of the most intense and influential partnerships in performance art history: Marina Abramović and Ulay. Together, we’ll trace how their relationship fueled radical artistic experiments that blurred the line between intimacy and exposure.

From shared bodies and shared breath to the legendary walk across the Great Wall of China, where they began at opposite ends and met in the middle to say goodbye, we’ll explore how love, conflict, power, and vulnerability shaped some of the most unforgettable works in contemporary art. Leon will guide the conversation through both an artistic and a psychological lens. We'll look at why this relationship burned so brightly, why it couldn’t last, and what it reveals about creativity, attachment, and the strange places where love and meaning collide.

当爱情本身变成艺术，而艺术又变成对耐力、身份和分离的考验时，会发生什么？当一段关系本身就是创作媒介，两个人究竟能走多远？在这场讨论中，心理学家兼艺术家 Leon 会带大家认识行为艺术史上最强烈、也最有影响力的合作关系之一——Marina Abramović 和 Ulay。我们会一起回顾他们如何将亲密关系转化为激进的艺术实验，不断模糊私人情感与公众暴露之间的界线。

从共享身体、共享呼吸，到那场著名的中国长城行走表演——两人从长城的两端出发，在中点相遇并正式告别——我们将探讨爱、冲突、权力和脆弱，如何塑造了当代艺术中一些最难以忘记的作品。Leon 会从艺术和心理两个角度引导讨论，带我们理解这段关系为什么燃烧得如此猛烈，为什么注定无法长久，以及它如何揭示创造力、依附关系，以及爱情与意义相互碰撞时产生的那些复杂又迷人的瞬间。